rather current theory? >> after 10 or 12 years, much of that is paraphrasing what they said about each other. i'll give you one quote. it was the golden age of american betrayal. so when i quote something, i often think this is pretty mild compared to what they're saying about each other. but a, the san francisco businessmen involved often on for the southern pacific said about charles crocker, he was a living, preteen, wadley monument , whose viciousness, pull garrity and dishonest. okay, i'm up against masters here. compared to the kinds of things they said, what i say is quite mild. many of the things they do say, thomas durrant is probably the nicest thing anybody ever said about him. so i'm not coming i do see them come that i'm pretty much the courses that i have.